April 21, 2005

War as a tool

from - Buck

Before she was killed Marla Ruzicka wrote an interesting piece explaining why knowing how many Iraqi’s have been killed during the war is important.

The military should also want to release this information for the purposes of comparison with reports such as the Lancet study published late last year. It suggested that since the U.S.-led invasion there had been 100,000 deaths in Iraq.

It seems to me that this makes the most sense. If the military would abandon its position of “not doing body counts” then at least we could have their numbers to compare against the numbers suggested by other reports. It is frustrating to get into discussions about whether 10,000 or 100,000 have been killed. Arguments like that turn all of those deaths into statistics rather than the tragedies that they are.

Ones position on the war seems to be heavily influenced by their chosen political affiliation.80% of Republicans think the war is worth it while 82% of Democrats think it is not worth it. It is shameful to me that an opinion of war as a tool to remake the world in your own image is based upon which party occupies the White House.


Posted by Buck at April 21, 2005 09:45 AM

hey...I think it was you a few weeks ago who talked about the 100,000 deaths being discredited. You have any articles or anything on it? I can't find much other than stuff from Little Green Footballs or Fox News.

univar.jpg Posted by dave on April 21, 2005 10:43 AM
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Smijer had quite a conversation about the number of civilians killed in Iraq with Daily Bailout. You can find it in the March archives under the heading "Bad Liberal" I believe. Even Jan has questioned where Smijer and I get our statistics and that is understandable because there are no reliable statistics.

All I know for sure is that when you drop tons and tons of bombs from 35,000 feet on to cities that have hundreds of thousands of inhabitants you are going to kill people. Whether it is 10,000 or 100,000 I cannot say but I would bet that the total number killed since the war started is closer to 100,000 than it is to 10,000. Keep in mind that in my mathematics a dead person is a dead person whether they are Sunni, Shiite, Kurd, Protestant or Atheist.
This site has a pretty good set of numbers


Check it out when you get an opportunity or if you have any interest in it. I know that the word "antiwar" is a big turnoff for many folks but if you can get by that I think you will find that the site attempts to be fair and objective with the figures they use.

univar.jpg Posted by Buck on April 21, 2005 04:18 PM
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