November 15, 2005

Red Friday's

from - Buck

Has this one popped into your email box yet?

Subject: RED FRIDAYS

RED FRIDAYS ----- Very soon, you will see a great many
people wearing Red every Friday The reason? Americans who support
our troops used to be called the "silent majority". We are no longer
silent, and are voicing our love for God, country and home in record
breaking numbers.

We are not organized, boisterous or over-bearing. We
get no liberal media coverage on TV, to reflect our message or our
opinions.

Many Americans, like you, me and all our friends,
simply want to recognize that the vast majority of America supports
our troops. Our idea of showing solidarity and support for our troops
with dignity and respect starts this Friday -and continues each and
every Friday until the troops all come home, sending a deafening message
that.. Every red-blooded American who supports our men and women
afar, will wear something red.

By word of mouth, press, TV -- let's make the United
States on every Friday a sea of red much like a homecoming football
game in the bleachers. If every one of us who loves this country
will share this with acquaintances, co-workers, friends, and family.
It will not be long before the USA is covered in RED and it will let
our troops know the once "silent" majority is on their side more than
ever, certainly more than the media lets on.

The first thing a soldier says when asked "What can we
do to make things better for you?" is...We need your support and your
prayers. Let's get the word out and lead with class and dignity, by
example; and wear something red every Friday.

IF YOU AGREE -- THEN SEND THIS ON -- WE LIVE IN
THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE

Holy Shit. Red every Friday until they come home? Hell man they ain't comin' home. It would be like agreeing to wear yellow until the boys come home from Korea. It ain't gonna happen. And why the color red? Because it symbolizes our undying thirst for bloodshed?

What color would best represent the bullshit that got us involved over there in the first place? Should it be considered white lies or black lies? What is the color that best represents wishful thinking?

Why not just agree to wear the blue and white colors of the Tallith? That should help remind us of one of the reasons we are there.

I think maybe I'll just wear green. That color best represents how sick to my stomach I get everytime I think about those dying for nothing in Iraq.

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Posted by Buck at November 15, 2005 02:07 PM
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"Like a homecoming football game"? Where in the hell are the cheerleaders? Maybe some of these "geniuses" should go back to high school English to relearn symbolism.

And I'm curious as to the choice of color myself. I'm thinking red because of all of the bloodshed.

As much as I respect the troops for risking their lives, I have no respect for the people placing those same troops in position to risk their lives. While our troops are playing "G.I. Joe in a sandbox", we are pissing enough Arabs off over there for them to make a strong enough plan to do more damage to our country.

Despite the cries from the "conservatives" and the "Bushies", this so-called "war" isn't worth the price we're paying - both in human lives and in dollars. The Iraqis won't give a damn 20 years down the road (if we're out of there by then) because they majority of them will still think we're an evil nation.

If our leaders want to protect this nation so badly, as they claim, why don't they just mind their own friggin' business. Suits me even better.

univar.jpg Posted by Mongo on November 15, 2005 03:08 PM
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You think the US is in Iraq because of Israel?

univar.jpg Posted by Bill Baar on November 16, 2005 03:40 PM
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You think the US is in Iraq because of Israel?

I thought that was commonly accepted knowledge Bill.

I sure don't think American troops are over there to protect ME from the Arabic hordes.

You mean that notion never crossed your mind?

univar.jpg Posted by Buck on November 16, 2005 04:57 PM
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A lot of possibilities occurred to me, but really not a single one of them made sense. Or even any combination of them. I just wish that we would restrict ourselves to waging war defensively... at least then, there would be less guesswork about the motives.

univar.jpg Posted by smijer on November 16, 2005 05:34 PM
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I think wars of last resort (defensive wars) become wars of anniliation. At least the way the United States fights them as we did against Germany and Japan.

I think this War has nothing to do with Israel or Jews and find your comments offensive. I'll avoid your blog.

univar.jpg Posted by Bill Baar on November 16, 2005 07:45 PM
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Smijer if we restricted wars to defensive wars only we would not have fought a war since we fought the British in 1812.

You can argue that we fought the Japanese because of Pearl Harbor but if Roosevelt had not moved the navy from San Diego to Hawaii the Japanese could not have ever gotten to them. We picked that fight.

And when somebody makes the statement that "we went to war against Germany and Germany did not attack us" please remind them that Germany declared war on the United States and not vice versa.

Wars are about spheres of influence and here in America we have decided that we want the entire sphere. And then we wonder why we are hated.

I apologize for offending you Bill. It was not my intent. And no, I do not have posters of Hitler in my bedroom.

I have stopped counting the number of times I have heard that making the Middle East safer for Israel is one of the reasons we have decided to remake the region in our image.

Anybody denying that Israel has a powerful influence in Washington is being purposely obtuse. Is Israel not the recipient of about 30% of our foreign aid?

It seems to me that if you agree with our policies concerning Israel instead of offended you would be proud when these things are pointed out.

univar.jpg Posted by Buck on November 17, 2005 09:28 AM
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Buck - at least in WWII, we were fighting in defense of somebody, against an aggressor... Whether we were defending ourselves after Pearl Harbor or, whether we entered that war willingly, we were not the aggressor in that war...

Bill, it isn't as though our experiment in aggressive war has gone splendidly - and if the sides were evenly matched, as they were in WWII, then the results would be little different...

War is a killer of innocents and a destroyer of life -- it is for that reason, not considerations of strategy, that it is immoral to go to war aggressively.

There are better ways to intervene in nations like the Sudan, where there are ongoing atrocities that we cannot, as a world society, tolerate... You can declare the gov of Sudan illegitimate as the result of the actions of a world court that has examined the evidence of their crimes (and found them guilty), and you can insert a multinational peacekeeping force to come to the protection of those who are being victimized, with a mandate to fight only if attacked by unfriendly forces intent on continuing the atrocities. That's a solution...

Buck, from comments on Bill's blog, I think Bill suspects antisemitism on the basis of your referral specifically to the colors of the Tallith - a symbol of Jewish religion - rather than to the Israeli flag... Perhaps if you clarified whether you meant the colors of the Tallith as they are employed in the Israeli flag or whether you meant the colors of the Tallith as they are associated with Jewish culture, then the cause for offense would be mitigated - or justified, depending on your answer... I agree that there was nothing else offensive about your speculation on the motivation for war against Iraq.

univar.jpg Posted by smijer on November 17, 2005 11:04 AM
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Smijer I have come to see WWII as a war that pitted National Socialism against Communism. America chose to be allied on the Communist side of that fight and that is how Stalin wound up with half of Europe.

I was referring to the colors of the flag of course. I stole the phrase "colors of the Tallith" from the flag description that was used at the flag link. It's still there if you want to check it out.

I am not an anti-semite. My problem in this world stems from government and not religions. Whether you are counting on 70 virgins or streets of gold after you die makes not one damned bit of difference to me. I wouldn't know a Jew if one walked into my living room and how Jews and Arabs can tell each other apart when they are naked has always baffled me.

Hell, I have a menorah at my house. At Christmas it sits on the table right next to the honey-baked ham. Being raised in a Christian home I learned early not to insult the Jews.

After all, they are God's chosen people, right?

univar.jpg Posted by Buck on November 17, 2005 03:17 PM
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