November 25, 2005

Working women

from - RSA

Kevin Drum writes about an ill-informed opinion piece by David Gelerntner, in which Gelerntner argues,

In those long-ago days, more college women used to plan on staying home to rear children. Those women had other goals than careers in mind, by definition. They saw learning as worth having for its own sake; otherwise why bother with a college education, if you weren't planning on a big-deal career?

But then came feminism:

But all that changed with feminism's decision to champion the powerful and successful working woman.

And what do liberals think?

Some liberals imagine that conservatives spend their time trying to set the clock back. That's a foolish caricature. We're not going back to 1960 (before careerist feminism took off). . .

The point that Gelerntner is making is not entirely clear to me, but his conclusions (whatever they may be) don't seem be based on very much besides memories of older, better days. The Bureau of Labor Statistics maintains information about the participation of women in the workforce. I've turned some data in a table from infoplease into a simple graphic below. It shows women in the workforce, from 1900 through 2000, as a percentage of all women 16 or over and as a percentage of all people 16 or over in the workforce.

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We see a steady increase in women's participation over the entire century, with no significant blips. It starts to take off not at 1960 (as can be told by differencing the data, which I haven't shown) but rather between 1940 and 1950, which is as we might expect from what we know about women coming into the workforce to help with the war effort, and staying afterwards. Did feminism have something to do with this? Perhaps, but it's not the post-60s brand of feminism that Gelerntner rails against in his column. Are the careerist feminists that Gelernter writes about different from the overall population of women in the workforce? Again, perhaps, but that case hasn't been made.

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Posted by RSA at November 25, 2005 02:10 PM
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Exactly. Anthropologist Marvin Harris, in his "Why Things Don't Work" remarked on the misconception that feminism caused women to go into the work force. It was just the opposite. Women's increasing place in the work force (and the way they got treated, sez me) led to feminism. I think your chart illustrates how right he was.

univar.jpg Posted by Jay C. Smith on November 25, 2005 07:11 PM
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Thanks for the pointer. I'll have to track down a copy. My knowledge of anthropology and sociology is limited to popular stuff like Studs Terkel and Paul Fussell.

univar.jpg Posted by RSA on November 26, 2005 08:56 PM
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I have two daughters going to college now so they can hopefully have something besides a dead-end job. My wife and I also hope that a college education will insure that they can get a job that will enable them to take care of themselves and not be dependent on a husband who might one day decide that the grass is greener on the other side.

It does not have shit to do with feminism, whatever that is.

univar.jpg Posted by Buck on November 28, 2005 08:06 AM
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I'm not sure if the fellow who writes this article would prefer that working women work manual labor and minimum wage jobs, rather than have a dreaded "career." The reality is that most of us are going to have to work. Better to be educated or have a skill so that when the time comes, you can have some options.

I wonder what the women in his family are doing.

univar.jpg Posted by h sofia on November 28, 2005 11:56 AM
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I don't know. I guess if you're big on a strong nuclear family (oddly, I couldn't immediately think of the word "nuclear" but wondered why "atomic family" didn't sound right) and traditional roles of the sexes, it might be hard to wrap your mind around alternatives. (Not that there's anything wrong with that view, per se.) What I've found, in talking with my more conservative relatives, is that sometimes they're unhappy with what they see as a broad social trend but okay with it when it's someone they know. "Those career feminists. . ." "But Dad, I'm a feminist with a career!" "Well, that's different."

univar.jpg Posted by RSA on November 28, 2005 03:53 PM
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